Cocoon Nebula NB SF Bay Area Imagers · Jim Brown · ... · 9 · 257 · 1

jecbrown 0.00
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Hi All,

Anyone out there doing narrowband? I'm messing around with colors, but haven't really found a combination of Ha, SII, OIII  I like yet.

Thanks,
Jim

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pfile 1.81
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yep. i usually just do straight SHO and then fix the colors to look like the 'blue' hubble palette. but i guess that only works if there is enough SII and OIII in the target.

rob
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javajunkie2121 0.00
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I'm starting to look at it.

Juan Conejero via Rob Morse suggestion:

·       OIII = Blue Channel
·       Ha*0.2+OIII*0.8 = Green Channel
·       SII*0.8+Ha*0.2 = Red Channel


(Juan Conejero calls this a more ‘natural’ representation; note healso says that if saturation is not an issue, then instead consider SII +
0.8*Ha for Red, 0.2*Ha + OIII for Green and pure OIII for Blue).  Note I have seen others who use different
mixes, such as mixing 50/50 SII and Ha to create the Red Channel, 85/15 OIII
and Ha for Green, and 100% OIII for Blue. 

also have seen on PI forum..I need to find the post to remember who authored it..it was in response to someone named Brad:

Forum poster's text:
"... but you can just use PixelMath to do the percentage blends to get a better/proper Hubble mapping that isn't so heavily
green weighted. I think its the following":

R/K: 0.4*Ha + 0.6*SII
G: 0.4*OIII + 0.3*Ha + 0.3*SII
B: 1.0*OIII

"This is another I saved off from this site a while ago, for a natural color blend":

R/K: 0.76*Ha + 0.24*SII
G: 1.0*OIII
B: 0.85*OIII + 0.15*Ha

jeff
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jerryyyyy 9.03
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If you use PI and want an interesting recipe, maybe try Rick Stevenson's ColorMask script:

https://pixinsight.com/forum/index.php?topic=7751.0
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jecbrown 0.00
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Yes, I use PI. Thanks for the tips! I am going to try that ColorMask script.
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pfile 1.81
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what jerry pointed to is the only narrowband flow i ever use for SHO. other people talk about color balancing or mixing to get the hubble palette but to me rick's method is the most straightforward.

rob
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jtrezzo 0.00
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I feel like Cocoon is just not a good narrowband target, it's more of an LRGB. You got all that broadband dust and reflection.
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jecbrown 0.00
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Thanks Jarrett, that sounds like part of the problem I'm having. Do you have a suggestions for a good narrowband target?

Thanks
Jim
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snakagawa 0.00
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I agree with Jarrett. I could not get good colors with Cocoon either (Astrodon 5nm filters). OSC images looked much better. You could use NB images to produce L frames so that you can reduce the stars in the background. Although, you may still want to use non-NB frames if you want to bring out the dust lanes.

There are plenty of easy (bright) and good-looking NB targets. How about Veil Nebs, Heart & Soul, Elephant's Trunk? They are rich in colors (the three main NBs).
I am shooting a bit more obscure and difficult (faint) large planetaries these days with NB.

Seiji
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jecbrown 0.00
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Thank you for the suggestions. I am trying Veil tonight and the next few days.

Jim
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