# 06 Dec, 2015 20:18
A nice idea/feature I would like to see in the upcoming revisions of Astrobin is to have a rating system to rate the uploaded work on several dimensions like:
- Image Processing technique
- Exposure technique
- Details provided
- Final image quality
- Overall rating
This way, a photo with good quality processing, capturing and clear details can be rated higher for IOTD and/or to appear at the first pages when a search is done.
This is also a way to encourage uploaders to provide better understanding on how the photo was taken/processed to benefit the site visitors and to give better insights on the imaging technique.
Hope this gets implemented soon, as (for me at-least) its very annoying to look at nice images but not know what went into creating it
# 06 Dec, 2015 22:43
|Such a Scoring Structure would be a Good Alternative (if not subverted by the same "Likes as a Social Game" issues). It would be nice to be able to add some Qualitative Scoring while still being able to write Encouraging Text to an Image from a Newbie that technically isn't much more than a blurry collection of under-exposed pixels.|
# 09 Dec, 2015 07:43
|I guess THE BEST WAY for a democratic score will be those when only the first 7 days after the image will be uploaded, the author name to be absolutely hidden . This way anybody can vote THE QUALITY but not the person. Well, some are putting the name right on the picture…then, those pictures will be excluded from a potential IOD.|
# 09 Dec, 2015 09:39
thanks for your suggestion. I must say I don't think it would work. People would not be inclined on complying with such a laborious voting process, and ultimately I don't see what it's trying to achieve. I was a victim of the same pitfall at the beginning. Truth is, you cannot sort astrophotograph for quality: there are just too many parallel considerations to make and categories that don't compare well to each other.
# 11 Dec, 2015 21:27
Salvatore IoveneThanx Salvatore for your input.
My reasoning is that astrobin is not "another flikr".
For me, its a technical oriented astro image sharing site.
For instance, I sometimes come here to know how good/efficient astro equipment are before purchasing by looking at their results (mounts,OTA's…etc).
By having full details (at least equipment,SW as a base) of the images, this search can be made easier. For images that dont have this data, they should not appear in the top of search results. This is just one example with what can be done with this data.
Now you could implement it in a different way, but a rating system will at least give people like me a chance to voice our opinion on an image and how much effort has the uploader put to make his data useful (which is in-effect helping your site have better data).
Thats my POV on this matter. Hope you agree
# 12 Dec, 2015 00:40
|We've been through this system before, even before I cared about astrophotography. I think the case to switch to likes would be even stronger if it were to happen today rather than three years ago.|
# 14 Jan, 2016 07:35
Hi all, even though I have been a member of astrobin for more than 2 years, I was a complete and utter novice of astrophotography. I visited this site to get guides on what length of subs a specific target should have. Many contributors here image with DSLR's, ISO would also be very helpful for beginners. In summary, would it be so bad to have certain fields of the capture details compulsory in order to have the image displayed. In my experience the "better" images are more likely to be lacking in capture and other details.|
Just my 2c worth…
Love the site in every other respect,
# 18 Jan, 2016 00:18
Another site that I use for Orienteering related activities and associated training has a very even way of ranking people based on the following factors.|
Total - total combined score (your final ranking score based on the below criteria) This would translate in AB to leaderboard position.
Ranking - attackpoint ranking score (calculated on how well you have performed at races in the last 6 months) For AB this could be how many image likes you have had in the last 6 months.
Discussion - posts in the last year, all sections (self explanatory) For AB this would translate to forum posts in the last year.
Splits - total number of splits entered (The number or race split times you have logged) For AB it could be images uploaded or revisions uploaded.
Leg Comments - number of split legs with comments entered (race split times where comments have been added) For AB this could translate to how many comments your images have received.
Training Volume - total hours of training in the last year (Self explanatory) For AB this could be hours of integration in the last year.
Seniority - years on attackpoint (Self explanatory) For AB this would be years on AB.
Log Hits - by other registered users (Time registered users have viewed your training log) For AB this would translate to how many image views you have had.
# 18 Jan, 2016 07:14
Sorry for purposing a new way of a democratic score. Regarding the DSO activity the method will work the best but for Solar captures wouldn't work because the number of the imagers is very low for such category .|
So, if a DSO imager post an image he will have a number of likes from different DSO imagers. The Astrobin index will be different, of course, for each one who like the image. But sure, only a person with a big Astrobin index is more credible and better can feel the quality than a novice .
So, the Astrobin index Sum of whomever vote / Nr. of voters = a good index for the IOD. Am I right ?
# 26 Jan, 2016 05:30
|Seniority is its own reward. It is already a major task for the newby to catch up with the seasoned veterans on AB. It seems like a better idea to reward based on merit, not seniority.|
# 02 Nov, 2016 02:11
yes, i know this topic was not used for a long time sorry I post again.
But i think the idea of Butty is really great, but it should not be used as a contest.
The Idea of a more detailed rating system in my opinion would be great for me personally, but this rating system should be only used to tell me, or i can tell others what i really think about the photo. Perhaps Salvatore's issue is correct and it will not be really used. I dont think so because if you are really interested in a (personal) rating, it will be a good idea. But well, yes, also i would not rate every picture, but all pictures i really like. Ok it is possible to write a comment to every photo, but it is more time consuming.
There should not be a contest of these ratings, it should be only a additional information for the photographer. I would like, if people could easyli tell me, like Butti suggested, in a 1-6 drawer or simmilar for these topics, what they think of the different parts of the picture technically. Perhaps also the possibility, that everyone can select if the ratings are hidden or not, could also prevent that someone is unhappy with such informations.
The like button can stay like it is. no problem there. But this is only a like and often used as a contest and all of you know where you push like or not. It dont really tells you if the Picture is ok, great or exeptional, or a friend made it….
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