# 06 Jun, 2018 20:28
hello all, in my pictures i always see some king of noise or grain.|
i always use darks,and flats too sometime.
its not direct the background..but nebula also.
is it just not enough data ? i processed in pixinsight,and also in astro pixel processor.
some images are here https://www.astrobin.com/users/kajouman/
most i use sigma klipping,for astro pixel processor i use sara wagner tutorial.
well tips are welcome.
# 07 Jun, 2018 17:39
Images look good. I think you might want to get more exposure time on your images say 300 seconds at a minimum. Always take darks and as many bias files as you can. A good goal on darks is 20 of them. Also take some flats. Most of your issue is not enough exposure for each light file.|
Hope this helps
# 08 Jun, 2018 00:26
thanks…..yes the last one is to short. 90 sec each. but other are 180sec each,total 9 hours or more.|
but im trying to get more data, darks and flats i also use.
do i still need bias with the asi1600 mm ? i did it with a canon dslr, didnt now its needed for mono too.
# 08 Jun, 2018 00:53
|Your images are not too bad at all. To better fight against noise, dont use too high gain with the ASI (lke 150+ i find pics too grainy) Expose a little longer if you can and at temperature of -20. Yes you should still use bias (50) and of course darks, as no sensor is perfect.|
# 08 Jun, 2018 03:49
|ohn, I would recommend downloading Noiseware Community Edition (free). It was a great help to me in getting rid of the grain. Good luck!|
# 08 Jun, 2018 03:50
|thanks… yes i like to use low gain too. most gain 75. making new darks now,bias too and see how it work.tryed dithering to tonight could help .|
# 08 Jun, 2018 12:43
Lawrence E. Hazel
# 11 Jun, 2018 16:00
|FWIW, I've seen lots of advice against using bias frames with this camera. I use flat darks myself.|
# 11 Jun, 2018 22:37
i can give it a try too,all that can help to make it better is welcome.|
ps i read somewhere that the most programs autmatically do it.
If your stacking program scales darks, it will usually scale them to the flats when calibrating. If that's the case, you don't need to take
flat darks. It is already done mathematically using your normal flats
and darks. PI automatically scales darks to flats.
but ill see.
# 12 Jun, 2018 16:25
|Problem is, scaling doesn't work if the bias noise isn't being correctly represented. But hey, if it works for you, it's all good.|
# 12 Jun, 2018 19:51
i just swa this on cloudynights..i didnt tryed it myself.
soon as the weather will be good.ill try
# 06 Jul, 2018 12:58
JohnLawrence E. Hazelthanks
thanks…and yes,great tool.
i used it on this one.
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