New mount

astrodude56
25 Jan, 2018 14:21
Hi! Looking into upgrading my EQ5 mount to a more stable platform for imaging. I have a 80mm triplet with guiding equipment which I’ve been using for imaging for a couple of years.

Currently I’m looking at the HEQ5/6 or the AZ-EQ5/6. The AZ-EQ6 is somewhat over my budget. What is the most sensible upgrade?

I would like to hear your opinion. Thank you!

ATB
bobzeq25
25 Jan, 2018 19:20
  1. Price is an excellent judge of quality here.
Skywatcher EQ6-R is $1600, a bit heavy.

https://www.highpointscientific.com/sky-watcher-eq6-r-pro-mount-s30300?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cse&utm_term=SKY-S30300&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIkP3I8ujz2AIVBYN-Ch0vPgpwEAQYAiABEgK2xfD_BwE

AZ-EQ5 is lighter, $1285, not as good, of course, but a serious upgrade.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1141704-REG/sky_watcher_s30200_az_eq5_multi_purpose_goto_mount.html?ap=y&c3api=1876%2C%7Bcreative%7D%2C%7Bkeyword%7D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2bOQwerz2AIVT2F-Ch2ldQyiEAQYASABEgION_D_BwE&smp=n

iEQ30Pro is very light, $1200, also a serious mount.

https://optcorp.com/collections/computerized-goto-telescope-mounts/products/ioptron-ieq30-pro-goto-equatorial-mount-w-tripod-3000e
Edited 25 Jan, 2018 19:22
sebastien
25 Jan, 2018 20:48
Hey,
If you don't need to carry much more than a 80 mm triplet the Heq5 pro will be the best choice if you don't want to spend much money.
If you make a good polar alignment you will be able to make good subs of ten minutes with autoguiding without problems.
I recommend you also to use the qhyccd polemaster. Your polar alignment will be very good with that and autoguiding will also work much better.

Clear skies,
Sébastien
Starminer68
25 Jan, 2018 22:41
Séb GOZE
Hey,If you don't need to carry much more than a 80 mm triplet the Heq5 pro will be the best choice if you don't want to spend much money.
If you make a good polar alignment you will be able to make good subs of ten minutes with autoguiding without problems.
I recommend you also to use the qhyccd polemaster. Your polar alignment will be very good with that and autoguiding will also work much better.

Clear skies,
Sébastien
 I agree, I use to have Celestron ADV, disaster mount, plagged with mechanical and software bugs, I finslly switched to Skywatcher HEQ-5 Pro- great mount and lighter than EQ-6 smile
Edited 25 Jan, 2018 22:42
astrodude56
26 Jan, 2018 06:01
Thanks! I'm a bit worried about the altitude bolts on the heq5, neq6 and eq6 because I live pretty far north. The altitude bolt solution on az-eq mounts are much better. The neq6, eq6, az-eq6 would be more future proof if I want to go bigger.
peleks
26 Jan, 2018 23:20
HEQ5 definetly  smile   i have, suggest, i use mine with more than 15 kg equipment, with belt mod works perfectly  smile
peleks
26 Jan, 2018 23:24
astrodude56
Thanks! I'm a bit worried about the altitude bolts on the heq5, neq6 and eq6 because I live pretty far north. The altitude bolt solution on az-eq mounts are much better. The neq6, eq6, az-eq6 would be more future proof if I want to go bigger.
as a  mater of fact, with bolts it is a problem, i live @ 55 degrees, if live with more than 60 might have a problem with lenght of bolts, need to cut one shorter to solve that problem smile
Starminer68
27 Jan, 2018 16:53
Guys, in the South Hemisphere is the same problem when you are close to the South Pole…. ho-ho-ho….. smile
kajouman
27 Jan, 2018 19:28
astrodude56
Thanks! I'm a bit worried about the altitude bolts on the heq5, neq6 and eq6 because I live pretty far north. The altitude bolt solution on az-eq mounts are much better. The neq6, eq6, az-eq6 would be more future proof if I want to go bigger.
the SKYWATCHER AZ-EQ5 GT GOTO MOUNT dont have this problem
wimvb
28 Jan, 2018 22:56
astrodude56
Thanks! I'm a bit worried about the altitude bolts on the heq5, neq6 and eq6 because I live pretty far north. The altitude bolt solution on az-eq mounts are much better. The neq6, eq6, az-eq6 would be more future proof if I want to go bigger.

The Altitude adjustment was the exact reason I went with the AZ EQ6 GT, even if it was above my budget. (But Brexit saved the day; bought in UK, shipped to Sweden)
huerbsch
29 Jan, 2018 00:58
AZEQ5- already has the belt mod done, lower PE than HEQ5-Pro, PPEC and better Alt/Az bolts.  Some people complain about a wobble, do a search for it on CN but it can be fixed. But if you think you may want a larger scope in the future… NEQ6-R : )
iamsiggi
29 Jan, 2018 21:40
Try to get a AZ-EQ6  - The point is, that you don't want to buy a 2nd time again. That's real expensive!
Siegfried
peleks
30 Jan, 2018 11:42
HEQ5 can carry much more than any of EQ5 versions, that was the point
Edited 30 Jan, 2018 11:43
Starminer68
30 Jan, 2018 19:51
peleks
HEQ5 can carry much more than any of EQ5 versions, that was the point
And this mount is MUUUUCH easier to move on…
Edited 30 Jan, 2018 19:51
carastro
30 Jan, 2018 21:34
peleks
HEQ5 can carry much more than any of EQ5 versions
So does that mean that the Skywatcher AZ-EQ5 GT GOTO MOUNT won't take the same weight as an HEQ5.

Just curious, not needing a new mount at the moment, but just keeping myself abreast of what's available just in case I do need a new one in the near future.

Carole
sebastien
30 Jan, 2018 21:52
No Carole, Az Eq5 can carry a max of 12kg and the Heq5 pro 10kg for astrophotography.
But by experience, the system of polarscope on the Az eq5 is very bad. You have to use the qhyccd polemaster if you want to make a good polar alignment.

Sébastien
kajouman
30 Jan, 2018 21:55
az-eq5 gt Payload 11kg for imaging and 15kg for visual  heq5 also 15 kg max.

for imaging split it in 2 .. 7 kg max scope weight
peleks
31 Jan, 2018 07:06
Séb GOZE
No Carole, Az Eq5 can carry a max of 12kg and the Heq5 pro 10kg for astrophotography.But by experience, the system of polarscope on the Az eq5 is very bad. You have to use the qhyccd polemaster if you want to make a good polar alignment.

Sébastien

well AZ EQ max load is 30lbs thats about 12kgs HEQ5 max load is in some pages says 18kg. people say that need to divide number by 2 to get best weight for imaging.
what can i say about all this - if You divide number by a factor of 2 you will get very stable platform for "drop and image" if you use more heavy equipment then you need to do small thing - balance.
 I use 250/1250 newton (14kg) + 1.5kg imaging gear, for me HEQ5 works super duper nice ! smile  dont know about AZ EQ5 have not used it, but HEQ 5 super mount especially if upgrade with Rowans belt mod smile  guide <— guiding graph
carastro
31 Jan, 2018 10:16
Séb GOZE
No Carole, Az Eq5 can carry a max of 12kg and the Heq5 pro 10kg for astrophotography.But by experience, the system of polarscope on the Az eq5 is very bad. You have to use the qhyccd polemaster if you want to make a good polar alignment.

Sébastien
peleks
Séb GOZE
No Carole, Az Eq5 can carry a max of 12kg and the Heq5 pro 10kg for astrophotography.But by experience, the system of polarscope on the Az eq5 is very bad. You have to use the qhyccd polemaster if you want to make a good polar alignment.

Sébastien

well AZ EQ max load is 30lbs thats about 12kgs HEQ5 max load is in some pages says 18kg. people say that need to divide number by 2 to get best weight for imaging.
what can i say about all this - if You divide number by a factor of 2 you will get very stable platform for "drop and image" if you use more heavy equipment then you need to do small thing - balance.
 I use 250/1250 newton (14kg) + 1.5kg imaging gear, for me HEQ5 works super duper nice ! smile  dont know about AZ EQ5 have not used it, but HEQ 5 super mount especially if upgrade with Rowans belt mod smile  guide <— guiding graph

Thanks for both lots of advice guys.  I have Polemaster already so no problem, I am using an HEQ5 that is a few years old and I have no skills to belt mod.  I currently use a dual rig of an ED80 & W0ZS71 or - on its own an ED120, just wanted to check if the AZEQ5 would be up to that should I need to replace the HEQ5 at some point.

I am going to the London Astrofest on 10th February, hopefully they might have an AZEQ5 on display so I can take a look at it.  I previously also owned an NEQ6 (which is a bit too heavy for me to lug around) which I ultimately permanently mounted in my observatory when I bought an HEQ5 to go to Astro campsites as I got fed up with having to re-polar align every time I came back.  I Recently decided to sell the NEQ6 to release some of my equity, as now having bought Polemaster it made having to re-PA every time I put the HEQ5 back into the obsy much easier.  So I don't want to be going down the AZEQ6 route, so it would be nice to have a lighter version in mind.

Carole
Edited 31 Jan, 2018 10:25
bobzeq25
01 Feb, 2018 00:41
The iOptron iEQ45Pro is an "Atlas class" mount with a 25 pound head weight.  The CEM60 is a bit better than an Atlas, 27 pounds.
I own one, it's no problem for me and my bum leg.
 
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