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Dear members of the AstroBin Beta Testers group, in order to be fully compliant with the GDPR, I need to make some changes to AstroBin. I apologize for being late to this party, I should've done this much earlier. The changes that will happen soon are:
In practical terms, the benefits you will receive are two:
For everything else, nothing really changes except that things are more transparent now, in accordance to the GDPR. AstroBin has always been privacy-minded:
So, as a member of the Beta Testers group, I would really love to get some help in reviewing the new documents. Please keep in mind that:
I would like to get feedback in terms of:
These are the new policies to review: https://welcome.astrobin.com/privacy-policy-test https://welcome.astrobin.com/cookie-policy-test https://welcome.astrobin.com/acceptable-use-policy-test These are the other existing policies, which might be good to check too: https://welcome.astrobin.com/terms-of-service https://welcome.astrobin.com/community-guidelines https://welcome.astrobin.com/ad-policy Thank you very much in advance to anyone willing to read them and provide feedback! I would like to thank Rüdiger who brought the issue of GDPR compliance to my attention and helped with the most pressing cookie opt-in issues! Salvatore |
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It's probably just not done yet but in case otherwise in the cookie policy this link fails with a 404 (in the paragraph "What are your cookie options"): https://www.astrobin.com/cookies/ Its a shame that the legal disclaimers now probably take up as much text as the underlying programming code. |
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Linwood Ferguson: Yeah I know, the page is ready to be released, but I just wanted some feedback for the policy pages. It's a page where you can customize cookie options and change them at any time, as required for the GDPR. Linwood Ferguson: Luckily not nearly close :-D I obviously want to run AstroBin as lawfully as possible, and these GDPR laws are there for a reason. The engineer in me of course would rather work on astro related features, but I understand why stuff like this is necessary. |
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Salvatore Iovene:Linwood Ferguson: Yeah, not a shot at astrobin but politicians and lawyers. In apparently trying to do a good thing, all they do is ensure virtually no one ever reads any of this (absent a law suit) and annoys everyone with the continual cookie prompts. Maybe we will be better off when the AI's take over. I read though (well, skimmed though) all the documents, nothing really jumped out at me. I think some could be more concise (e.g. if you say unlawful is prohibited is it necessary to list unlawful things), but what actually sunk in was fairly clear. |
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Linwood Ferguson: Personally, I agree with this and everything else you've said. But, regarding being concise, it's much easier for me to stick with the generated content. I used https://www.websitepolicies.com/ and I will be notified when some laws change and I need to amend something in my policies. The least I deviated from the generated content, the easiest it is for me when that happens. |
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Salvatore, Now I know why I've been getting so many pop ups on other sites. It seems that many others are working to become GDPR compliant as well. At any rate, I have read through all of the policies and nothing jumps out as being problematic. It's a shame that this sort of work is necessary but it is a reality in todays world. I used to work with contracts during my professional career and know from working with our legal team that it is much better to use accepted boiler plate language for standard terms and conditions. Even though the text can be long, you are absolutely correct in using the generated content from a source specializing in legal compliance for these laws. Going off script can cause unintended consequences. Bob |
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Salvatore I read all of the links and they seem straightforward to me. I would not try to explain more in them as the wordier they get, the more people will either ignore them or get irritated and ask you more questions. Also, remember that the US does not fall under GDPR, so most in the US will not even know what GDPR is unless they have been working for a EU company like I have for the past 30+ years. The closest thing the US has is HIPPA. So, you may want to spell out what GDPR is for all and that this is a mandated EU law. Other than that, I think being concise, organized, and clear with regard to this requirement and how it pertains to AB and its members is the way to go..........which I think you have done here. Bruce |
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Hi @Bruce Donzanti, the way the code is tentatively set up now, I will only show the cookie banner and use opt-in cookies to visitors in countries where the GDPR applies. California has a privacy act too, so I might need to see if I can detect access for a specific state. |
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Salvatore Iovene: hmmm....ok, if you want to but I lived in California many years and I am not aware of anything special even though CA does some "odd" things. I am pretty sure each state has privacy laws at a state level too. CA might not be special in that regard. |
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Bruce Donzanti: I'm talking about this specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Privacy_Rights_Act And yes, other states have different rules as well. And of course many countries not in Europe. To be honest, complying with everything at all time would be a nightmare, so for now I'm complying with the GDPR and the CPRA and confiding in the fact that this would cover things in case somebody from some whatever country has a problem... |
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| yes- I agree about, " complying with everything at all time would be a nightmare", but I am still not sure what https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Privacy_Rights_Act really adds. However, up to you, just my 2 cents. |
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One thing that would be nice is the option to persist the cookie preferences in the user profile . The reason is that I use Firefox and delete all cookies on exit, this now means that Astrobin nags me every time when I open the page. When my settings have my preferences for cookies you could use them on next screen refresh after login. Michael |
